Zero88 Forum

Hi @DALX, Yes, Brian has already kindly sent the manual, but for future reference you can find it on the ZerOS Software page inside the Fixture Tools 2.6 ZIP download as a PDF. Here is a direct download link to that ZIP file. Fixture Tools is the general package that Zero 88 released, whereas Fixture Type Editor is an individual application within that package used to create/edit .ift files and export to .ift or .uft formats. Fixture Tools also includes the Common Fixture Manager application for the original Frog Range. Hope this helps!

Thanks Brian, thats what I was looking for.

Found this a while back, can't remember where. It only mentions the legacy desks but that's when this software dates back to. Fixture Editor User Guide_260902_181930.pdf

Is there a manual for Fixture Tools please ? Is Fixture Tools a rename of Fixture Type Editor ? I want to add gobo selection and images to a moving head spot thanks.

Hi @alg, ZerOS 8.0.0 contained minor bugs that could crash consoles, but this has been resolved with ZerOS 8.0.1 and user feedback has been generally positive about this bugfix from what I've seen. The CRDOWNLOAD file you see is a general file that is put in place for a file that is currently being downloaded or paused and hasn't finished downloading. This is normal to see while a file is downloading. You can try downloading Phantom ZerOS 8.0.1 again here from the ZerOS Software page. I hope this helps.

I have just discovered that there is a new Zeros 8.0.1 update. There seemed to be a number of generally negative comments about this. What is the position on this new version? Is it worth it. I have tried to run the Phantom version to test it but it only seems to download a file version CRDOWLOAD File, Microsoft wont open this. Any suggestions?

I have just discovered that there is a new Zeros 8.0.1 update. There seemed to be a number of generally negative comments about this. What is the position on this new version? Is it worth it. I have tried to run the Phantom version to test it but it only seems to download a file version CRDOWLOAD File, Microsoft wont open this. Any suggestions?

Replaced the 3 incorrect caps. Tested ok. Earth leakage now <1mA as expected.

Information for users (if anyone still cares!). I recently purchased (2nd hand) two Chilli Jr dimmers for an install at a local voluntary art space. As is my usual approach, I always inspect, refurbish and electrically test equipment before I deploy it. On one of the Chilli Jr dimmers I purchased I observed an unusually high earth leakage current compared to the other Chilli Jr dimmer, when testing with my Megger PAT tester. Around 5mA compared to the <1mA observed on the other (#2) Chilli Jr dimmer. I've tracked this down to the fitting of incorrect EMI capacitors at some locations on the phase trigger PCB. There is no evidence of any rework or repair on this board, so this looks like a factory pick/assembly error. These capacitors are used (correctly) elsewhere on the same PCB. The phase trigger board takes the three mains phases (or three copies of single phase mains) and derives the zero-crossing trigger signals for the triacs. For EMI purposes, there are X2 and Y2 capacitors employed across the line, neutral and earth supply terminals. - X2 capacitors are used line-neutral and fail short to trigger over-current protective devices. - Y2 capacitors are used line-earth and neutral-earth and fail open circuit to avoid creating a shock hazard on the metal casing (since these dimmers are Class 1 devices). I've found X2 class capacitors fitted where Y2 class capacitors should be fitted in one of the Chilli Jr dimmers. Photos show 0.1uF (100nF) X2 EMI capacitors fitted where 0.0

Thanks for looking. My desk is at a school so tried it with Phantom ZerOS without success, will try it on the desk tomorrow.

Hi Rye, Great to hear you were able to get it working. Correct, fixtures that have red text in the Fixture Schedule are non-library fixtures. Yes, the on-board Fixture Creator & Editor within ZerOS allows for longer parameter names than Fixture Tools does. This is because Fixture Tools supports legacy desks (such as the Frog Range, Jester Range, Illusion 500 etc.) which only supported a certain amount of characters for parameter names. The ZerOS Fixture Editor allows for longer names because it doesn't have to contain compatibility for legacy desks which hold that limitation. Fixture Tools only supports loading .ift files and not .zfix files. This means that zfix files cannot be loaded into Fixture Tools to be edited, and can only be modified on the desk. One of the reasons of that is zfix files can contain multicell information, and Fixture Tools does not support multicell functionality. However, once you load in a .ift fixture file into the desk (SETUP -> Load), you can actually edit it in the ZerOS Fixture Editor from Add Fixtures. Beware though, making any edits to anything in that fixture personality within ZerOS will remove all parameter detail information you have added from Fixture Tools as it writes new parameter information when you re-save the file (in the zfix format this time), so lengthening parameter names once loaded into ZerOS isn't possible. I would only recommend doing so if you don't have any parameter detail information in that profile that is important.

Thanks Archie It took a bit of experimenting, trial and error and then a while inputting all of the details but I was able to get it all working. The fixture is showing up Red in the Fixture Schedule - which I assume is because it's a non-library fixture The only very minor gripe I had was the Fixture Editor only let me have parameter names with a max of 7 characters, so I had to shorten the parameter names - but not actually a big deal. I didn't end up needing to - but is there a way to like, export an existing fixture from the desk to then edit in the Fixture Editor? I tried to do something like that, but since the desk exports as .zfix files and the Editor only uses .ift I'm guessing you can't edit an existing fixture, so you'd have to create a new one from scratch, which is what I did