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DMC: I tell ya, I was having so many issues getting this thing to pair with the Rotor App to zero it and then calibeatre - and have somewhat accurate readings compared to my older InPower. Good to know that “I’m not holding it wrong.” The calibration process is so much more finicky that I am not zeroing my power meter very often. With my Quarq I do that every time before a ride even though I probably don’t have to. Honestly, the price was so low that if push comes to shove and I would use my mountain bike or its successor for more serious stuff, I would consider getting a pair of Faveros. My reasons were cheap + I really wanted 165 mm cranks on all of my bikes + my 175 mm XTR cranks had a crank in them. (Although I only discovered the crack when I installed the Rotor cranks.)

The geometry of the Lauf is very much adventure oriented so not sure it would comparable but pricewise its indeed similar.

Cross posting from another thread. I personally don’t think the current PL’s are broken at all, and I’ve never had an issue with them. That’s with the trainer indoors, lots of outdoors, and lots of custom workouts. It’s really really rare (e.g. Custom Sprint or Anaerobic Workout) that you get the PL system confused. At least for me anyways. And, I don’t think there’s any issue at all comparing over time or against other riders. That’s what TSS, CTL, IF, PDC, and W/Kg help you do. All are well defined and understood, and standard metrics. I’m routinely using these to compare efforts and seasons even when FTP was different. I think there are enough challenges with switching to an absolute number that it’d probably be worse. You need some fixed unit of measure - e.g. Watts, KJ’s, and have to have a way of specifically saying here’s how it’d work. I think they might actually end up being harder to understand, more confusing, and a step back. I’m open to being proven wrong, but I’d actually like someone to lay out a clear recommendation of how it could work, what units of measure, and how that’s actually “Better” as opposed to just general dislike of the current system.

LPlante: only negative is the tire clearance although they state 50mm with 6mm of clearance on either side so 55 would fit. It supports 2x drivetrain, so I assume it’s just the trade off for the smaller tire clearance. Not for me, but some folks like their 2x and don’t care about big tire clearance. For 1x and 57mm clearance, the Lauf is still pretty compelling and is basiclly the same price as the Evolve frame (~$2k).

I’m still not seeing anything here that’s better, or even clear what the actual recommendation is. I don’t think you can ignore the scale, you have to have something to base it off of and I think all non-relative numbers (Average Watts? KJ’s?) actually could make it more confusing and worse because of the range of FTP’s and riders that you actually have. And my opinion - Existing PL’s aren’t broken and don’t need to be fixed. I’ve personally never had an issue with them and that’s someone who does indoor, outdoor, and custom workouts. Feels like a solution looking for a problem.

I was thinking the same except the G5 is pretty heavy and Winspace have become a bit overpriced in recent years imo. I really like the Grow but the cockpit they sale has a very strange shape and the overall geometry is a little more on the slow and stable side when compared to more aggressive geometry like the Crux 5 and new Ridley Kanzo with 74.5 degree seat tube angle. I think the Evolve strikes the best balance of weight, aero and somewhat racy geometry and comes with a very nicely designed integrated cockpit.

This is such a broad statement. I generally agree that if you’re a low volume athlete (4-6 hours), you likely need the intensity on a consistent basis to improve. If you’re an average mid-volume competitive athlete, say in the 8-10 hour range, then you need to make some modifications which likely include a reduction in the AMOUNT of intensity that you’re doing (e.g. going from 3 days of intensity to 2). If you’re a high volume athlete, you need to curb intensity to allow for adaptation to volume. I think there are plenty of people who train too hard, plenty who don’t train “hard” enough (read: WELL enough). The thing I’ve consistently seen with athletes I’ve taken on who are TrainerRoad users is that most of them have plateaued and can’t improve beyond where they are without changing their approach to training. Most often, that means a REDUCTION in the volume of intensity, adding a bit more easy volume, and adjusting the periodization of their intensity to more closely match what suits their chosen events. Remember that other than a very few specific events, bike racing is an endurance sport. The best way to train endurance is to increase volume. The best (necessary) way to increase volume is at lower intensity. This isn’t “noodling”, and the fact is that you can get a lot better at cycling, running, and swimming without doing high volumes/frequencies of intense work. In the broad population of endurance athletes, it is my opinion that there are way more people training too h

I also bought a new Rotor Inpower before Breck Epic since it was so cheap. I already had the same power meter, but in 175mm crank length and I thought might as well get the same power meter in 165mm since they were so cheap. I tell ya, I was having so many issues getting this thing to pair with the Rotor App to zero it and then calibeatre - and have somewhat accurate readings compared to my older InPower. Eventually, the morning of Breck Epic, I got the damn thing to pair properly with my Garmin despite conflicting documentation on which pedal is at 12 or 6 when calibrating. I had to use the battery cap from the old power meter to get the battery to seat properly. Hoping now I can go back to the new battery camp thing. I think it reads a bit lower than my Garmin Rally pedals, but since that hiccup, has been consistent.

I am a doctor, but not your doctor. @psmith - One died from pancreatitis, one from aspiration during anesthesia, one from line sepsis after being on TPN for their intractable ileus. These are all well-known side effects in the medical literature and community, with the pancreatitis piece carrying a formal FDA warning as well. @taylor_brasher - this was just one example. It’s a big enough issue that it’s described in the medical literature: PubMed Central (PMC) Battling the Testosterone Clinics and Websites PubMed Central (PMC) Longevity clinics: between promise and peril @ajs914 - For telehealth, if you’ve found a reputable company Im glad. Consider that episodic remote care from random prescribers is demonstrably inferior (ie: worse patient outcomes) to longitudinal care from a single person who can examine you. Telehealth is nice when other options aren’t possible, but it does not replace in-person visits with a physician who knows you. ==== The only basic advice I will give in response to the direction this thread is going, is what I’ve said already: These meds are great, but they are not candy and I would strongly discourage usage without a proper medical indication. Telehealth/men’s health clinics/longevity clinics in the US tend to attract practitioners who see you as $$$, not as a person. I don’t recommend them to family members. This is the only free medical advice you’ll get from me

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